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Post by Sophronia on Apr 10, 2006 22:39:33 GMT -5
If anyone's ever read Dan Brown's Angels & Demons, or perhaps The DaVinci Code then you would be completely and utterly dumbstruck by the fact that he hasn't been published on foreign planets yet. At least, that's how I feel. I just finished Angels & Demons last night...actually this morning at 3 AM...I couldn't put the thing down. How about you guys?
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Post by Shades on Apr 11, 2006 0:00:18 GMT -5
I finished THe Da VInci code in 3 days and I'm listening to Angels and Demons, on cd. LOL Too busy to read it right now but so far it is uber original but they have so much in common. Female relative helps Langdon, both has something on there chests, both crimes are orchistrated by a mastermind who stays in the shadows, all of this is a carbon copy of each other but both amazing books. I also have Deception Point
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Post by Eolith on Apr 11, 2006 7:53:56 GMT -5
I was just talking about him with a friend at school yesterday. She was saying that he had a ton of other books that were 'pretty much the same story over and over again with slightly different characters'. I haven't read any of his work yet, but I did hear he was getting sued for allegedly copying ideas from a similar book. I still wanna read the DaVinci Code and Angels and Demons when I can. Currently another friend is making me read the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants... I'm not sure if I'm liking it...
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Post by vermilition on Apr 11, 2006 10:45:07 GMT -5
i think i might have too read both books this guy sounds quite good i still like darren shan though but this guy sounds really good i may have too pinch the books of off my dad...
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Post by Sophronia on Apr 11, 2006 15:42:53 GMT -5
Do you know what book he allegedly stole his ideas from? I didn't hear of anything like that...
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Post by Eolith on Apr 11, 2006 17:18:43 GMT -5
I forgot the name. You could Google it.
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Post by Shades on Apr 11, 2006 18:41:58 GMT -5
Yeah it actually ticks me off how he does that, he is a great author but he needs to mix things up ALOT
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Post by Sophronia on Apr 11, 2006 20:02:28 GMT -5
Here's an article I found...
A New Zealand author is embroiled in a plagiarism row over Dan Brown's blockbuster hit, the religious thriller The Da Vinci Code, and has launched legal action against the novel's publishers.
Nelson-born Michael Baigent and American writing partner Richard Leigh are suing Random House Group in Britain, claiming damages that could run to millions of dollars.
The Da Vinci Code joined the New York Times bestseller list at No 1 and has sold more than 12 million copies internationally.
Before the lucrative Christmas sales week it had sold about 100,000 here and remains at No 1 on the local bestseller list.
It has reportedly earned Brown £140 million ($380 million) and is about to be turned into a Hollywood movie starring Tom Hanks.
But Baigent and Leigh, whose own 1982 work Holy Blood, Holy Grail caused such religious outrage when it was published that it sparked death threats, say Brown has lifted large tracts of their research without permission.
Their lawsuit claims at least £150,000 damages for breach of copyright, saying a "substantial" amount of their work has been used and asking that copies of The Da Vinci Code be destroyed.
Baigent told the Weekend Herald the United Kingdom lawsuit meant he could not talk about the case, or which parts of The Da Vinci Code he and Leigh say amount to plagiarism.
"All I can tell you is that we are suing Dan Brown for theft of intellectual property.
"The matter's with the High Court, it's sub judice, and I can't say anything more than that unfortunately.
"It's never a nice thing for one writer to have to be suing another."
Random House spokeswoman Clare Harrington said from London that the publishers would file their defence with the court soon.
"We continue to be confident that the claimants' case is wholly without merit," she said.
Details of the allegations made by Baigent and Leigh remain sealed by the British court.
However there are clear links between Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The Da Vinci Code, even though the latter is a novel and the former a non-fiction study of secret religious history.
It also appears the identities of Baigent and his two co-authors have provided Brown with material for his characters.
Sir Leigh Teabing is a central character in The Da Vinci Code, but that name combines Richard Leigh's surname and an anagram of Baigent, and Sir Leigh's physical description is said to be similar to The Holy Blood's third co-author, Henry Lincoln.
Brown's hero is American professor of religious symbology Robert Langdon. Baigent has completed a masters degree that included a dissertation on Renaissance symbolism.
Holy Blood, Holy Grail has also sold millions of copies, and aroused controversy through its exploration of a theory that Jesus might not have died on the cross but lived, married and had children.
Their research explored whether a secret bloodline existed, and potentially challenged central foundations of Christianity - including the role of women.
It featured societies such as the Knights Templar and Priory of Sion, which are also core to mysteries within The Da Vinci Code.
Anger at Holy Blood, Holy Grail prompted death and bomb threats against the authors and publishers, and Baigent still keeps his address in England a secret.
He was reluctant to outline why he was taking legal action, but has told the Daily Telegraph newspaper in Britain that being "lumped in" with Brown's novel degraded the historical implications of their research.
"It makes our work far easier to dismiss as a farrago of nonsense.
"What a lot of people have forgotten was that the Holy Blood was a hypothesis," Baigent told the Weekend Herald this week.
"We had a lot of data that we were deeply suspicious of, and we spent a lot of time checking it.
"We managed to establish that a certain amount was shown to be correct; the rest was plausible."
Baigent, 56, has lived in the UK since 1976 but still visits home and family here most years.
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Post by Shades on Apr 12, 2006 1:11:12 GMT -5
OMG RICHARD LEIGH IS SUING HIM!?!?!?!?!?!? I"M READING A BOOK BY HIM AND CHRISTOPHER KNIGHT CALLED THE SECOND MESSIAH which is actually amazing, and richard leigh will never win in court.
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Post by vermilition on Apr 12, 2006 4:31:48 GMT -5
yeh it was something to do with holy blood and holy grails ideas about the crusifiction or something ive not read them yet so i dont totaly know what im on about but i have a ruff idea...
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Post by Shades on Apr 12, 2006 12:42:41 GMT -5
I've read half of that book, and it only partially copies it, but like eighty other books have the same idea.
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Post by Sophronia on Apr 12, 2006 16:31:58 GMT -5
Yeah, the defence is 'themes have to be repeated at some point, there arent enough to go around to every book'. and im rooting for dan brown to win...
its about the theme idea of mary magdelene in the davinci code.
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Post by Eolith on Apr 12, 2006 18:45:14 GMT -5
I agree. No one can ever really write a completely unique book. It's sad really.
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Post by vermilition on Apr 13, 2006 12:35:01 GMT -5
yeh no book can be writen without some kind of influence and if danny boy over lapped the other guys inspiration its only coincidence...
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Post by Shades on Apr 13, 2006 12:43:59 GMT -5
actually this other guy is a historian not a story telling author. He is actually one of my role models, seeing as how i'm a history nut. BUT it is possible to write a unique book, and there is a difference between inspiration, and copying someone, I think we should have contest to see who can write the most original story, when we get more active members, so everyone advertise lol
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